I have heard the complaints (and written some) about the media and how they misrepresent the Pagans they interview, twist their words and make them look silly. For this reason, I always dreaded the idea of being in the media despite my dream of being a writer. I would certainly never be on one of those reality shows. So when I got a request for an interview the other day I hesitated, but not for long because after all, it was a huge ego stroke. Besides, the interviewer was a fellow Pagan, so surely I'd be safe.

Check out my interview at examiner.com

I received an email a few weeks ago asking for an interview. I thought that the interview was going to be about my various projects, but that was honestly just an assumption based on the fact that the request came through the email tied to one of them. I responded that I would be delighted and awhile later received a list of questions with a request that I include a picture in my reply. I did so with a note saying: I have attached a picture of me last Beltane and also a picture of our altar to Zeus and Hera as it appeared on our wedding day with our handfasting cord there and the wreaths we wore in our hair.

Her response did not include any comments or additional questions, it simply said: Wow, thanks a lot Dawn. Love the photos. Interview is refreshing. You looked beautiful.

Later the interview appeared on examiner.com with a bunch of comments added after the fact. Comments that I would have loved to respond to; some of which showed a complete misunderstanding of what I said and some of which I found quite rude and in some cases patronizing. So, in the interest of full disclosure, and to make myself feel better, I am going to answer these comments here!

First off, the Title: 13 Questions for Dawn Black, an Eclectic Witch. I am a Hellenic Druid or a Neo-Hellenic Polytheist and a Kitchen Witch, three titles she could have chosen from. Eclectic Witch doesn't describe me very well I think I'm too anal retentive to be eclectic. But more on that later.

Comment 4 An academic Pagan is rare, but we certainly need more of them.

I beg to differ. The Druid and the Hellenismos communities are both full of academics. Many of us came to our the Pagan community through academic channels. I myself came to my path in college where I studied anthropology and religion. Many Hellenismos study Greek so as to read the old texts in the native language while many Celtic Druids also study Gaelic. We also like to travel if we have the means.

Comment 5 Understandably, but when you’re ready to chose a proper magickal name, the confusion will end.

I beg to differ again. A third name will only be more confusing. Besides, I have no intention of choosing a "magickal name" as I think they are silly.

Comment 7 Well, you’re not a Santera or Yoruban either and Voodoo practitioners don’t perform blood sacrifice at wedding ceremonies.

Actually, my father is Yuroban. Yes, there are Yuroban Pagans and there are many synchretic movements that can trace their roots to Yuroban Pagan belief, but Yuroba is a cultural language group centered in Western Africa (My dad was born and raised in Nigeria), not a religion. There are Pagans, Muslims and Christians among them. My dad is the latter. This is, of course, the source of his comment.

Comment 8 Essentially, you’re an Eclectic.

No, I'm not. I am a NeoHellenic Polytheist and an ADF Druid. It is true that my ritual style is a blend of Hellenic reconstruction and the ADF ritual style, but the only Gods I call upon are Hellenic. I do not believe in crossing Pantheons and if I did I wouldn't because I am very devout and attached to my personal Gods. I do celebrate the Druid Feast Days (with the exception of Yule) but I attach them to Hellenic practices. It frankly isn't practical for me to follow the Attic ritual calendar in my modern life.

While the Sacred Hearth Circle is necessarily somewhat eclectic due to the many personalities involved in it besides my own the only Gods we call are Hellenic. My Circle mates are eclectic enough to allow me that idiosyncrasy. So while my Circle may be eclectic due to necessity, I am personally not.

Eclectic Pagans take bits and pieces from different paths and call Gods across pantheons. While I am willing to allow that some Gods may exist in multiple pantheons with different names, I do not call different names and I never mix pantheons.

Comment 9 Well, as an eclectic, you really don’t have to label it all, since what your practicing is borrowed here and there from many cultures and traditions.

No it is not. It's very easily labeled, straightforward and clearly defined within the realms of Hellenic ADF. The adaptations that we have made to the liturgy of the Sacred Hearth Circle are still more Hellenic and Druidic than anything else, we have merely simplified them and made them more entertaining for the kids while adding elements that make other people more comfortable. This does not make me eclectic but flexible- and grudgingly so. My personal practice contains none of these elements and they stand out to me a great deal in group practice. I do admit a great deal of what I do comes from personal gnosis, journey and discussion with my personal Gods but I still wouldn't call it eclectic... Why I am so concerned about being called eclectic... I have no idea.

Comment 10 Interesting. I was referring to deities and spiritual beings that may have inspired you or guided you, not actual people you’ve known in your mundane life. It appears you have many favorites.
I know what you were referring to. I was simply making the point that I don't feel it is very respectful to offer deities less respect than we do humans. No, I do not have favorites. I respect the Gods too much to pick favorites. They are not colors or ice cream flavors. Perhaps you mean to ask which Gods I am closest to? If so, I have answered that- Eos, Hermes, Hestia and Aphrodite in no particular order.

Comment 11 Well, you sound very busy within the confines of your nest. However, perhaps a deeper spiritual connection with a specific deity could help you with your paranoia.

I was not aware that granting an interview constituted a request for advice. As I mentioned, I have close personal relationships with several deities. In fact, a deeper connection with a single deity would probably lead me to further avoid events that weren't directly related to Him or Her. I don't think it's appropriate for a polytheist to worship a single deity to the exclusion of the others.

I'm not paranoid. I am actually very trusting. But perhaps I should have used the word "comfortable" rather than "safe". I have a strict code of ethics and morality tied to my own belief system and I am uncomfortable around those who do not also adhere to it and many Pagans do not simply because many feel that stated morality equates to being judgmental. Further, I am as uncomfortable at a Wiccan ritual (or any ritual that doesn't relate to my own Gods) as I am at a Christian church though I will attend either for weddings, funerals and the like. Since there are few Hellenic Druid events around that doesn't leave me with alot of options.

At home I feel "safe" that I will not be exposed to anything that makes me feel uncomfortable and that I'll have something edible to enjoy while I'm at it. When people come to my house I can maintain control over the rules, kick out the drunks, keep the smokers outdoors, ensure there are plenty of vegetarian options on the menu and choose who to invoke and how to do it. I do go to events, especially when I'm bound by reciprocity (part of that code of ethics), but I choose the events I go to carefully.

Finally, the picture of my altar to Hera and Zeus was labeled my "love altar" which is ridiculous. It's an altar to Hera and Zeus! It is true that the picture was taken on my wedding day and they were invoked to strengthen the marriage and observe the contract and offerings were given to them to encourage their good will... But it remains an altar to Hera and Zeus and love doesn't have much to do with it.

Although I don't particularly like them, I have done email interviews in the past and I have always sent a followup email with questions and clarifications. One-sided interviews are never a good idea. You have to have that back and forth to really get your meaning across. That being said, perhaps I should learn to choose my words more carefully. I think I fell prey to the idea that, since she was also Pagan, she would "get" what I meant and I didn't have to choose my words as carefully with her- though using "safe" instead of "comfortable" was kind of a huge gaff on my part. Lesson learned. I was also thinking at the time that I should try not to be too verbose, so I perhaps didn't explain as well as I could have.

It is annoying to see small excerpts of interviews inside of an article, out of context and mixed in with the journalist's opinions but in this case she didn't even try to write an article, she just cut and pasted my answers and added little comments here and there that could have been followup questions. It's enough to make a girl not want to give interviews anymore. It's one thing not to trust the main stream media, but I'd like to be able to trust the Pagan media.

Methinks I protest too much. In reality, looking back on it, I think perhaps this journalist is falling prey to the same issue as the mainstream journalists we have complained about in the past and so did I. She is looking at this interview through her own worldview lens. She sees magickal names as the norm, I see them as frankly silly- though I did point out that I have a pen name and unnecessary- no one in my Circle has one. She sees choosing a favorite deity as normal and perhaps admirable while I see it as sort of disrespectful to all the rest. I was appalled at the question due to my view of it as disrespectful and she's obviously concerned that I have somehow aborted my spiritual growth by not picking a favorite. It just goes to show the diversity of the Pagan community.

So the interview wasn't that bad. I'm just a little irritated that she got things wrong when they were explicitly stated. But whatever. She hasn't done anything worse than I've done on my own blog or in person. I can put my foot in my mouth just fine by myself, thanks. And it's not as if she actually twisted my words she just added comments that made me feel like she was patronizing me. Ohhh there's that ego again.

It is hard to put Pagan values into a classification.
And I sooo cringe when I hear “Harm none do what you will”.

The way I see things is that there is a natural order to things. We all believe energy is there weather or not a person chooses to recognize it. We have tried to explain to many “muggles” that there is simply a natural order to the way the Universe works things. We pagans just tap into it on a more visual and conscious level, trying to kick out the unnatural roadblocks.
If our religious path is a way of flowing with the energy then why should values be any different? Values are, after all, no more than discovering the natural order of what works for us and those around us. The bottom line is there are things that are good and there are things that are bad. We do the best we can. None of us are a complete version of either good or bad. For the most part we are trying to dance with that universal order and finding where we fit.
And then there was grey. Should healings be done without asking the person being healed? Is getting tanked before and after ritual a good idea? Should it really be accepted that there is usually a “pagan” around that seems to use the word to see how much sex they can get? The list goes on. I can even tell you my point of view (no, no and yes) but it isn’t even what my values are that make a difference to anyone but me and those I love. In essence it isn’t even worth more than a grain or two to this concept that I have values that would be considered pagan to begin with.
Moral code is a way to connect with what is right. Pagans are trying to connect with what is ingrained into being human. There are just some things you don’t do (bad attracts bad) and some things you do (good attracts good) if you want to lead a happy, well adjusted life.
So what are those things? They really don’t need explanation. We all innately know them; it’s part of the human code. You shouldn’t let anger get the best of you. You should appreciate the beauty everywhere. You should help the ones you love and stand up for what is right. There are a few more but that is basically the end of the story.
Or is it? There are good people and bad people everywhere, even in the pagan community. I think that is where the true discussion over pagan values comes from. How do we cope when we smell bullshit? What do we do now that we are so disconnected from our neighbor? There should be a level of acceptance of the fact that there are jerks in every crowd but never an acceptance for what a “bad person” does that is wrong. If anything, pagan or not, we should do some more standing up for what is right and stop hiding behind the fact that we are all trying to better ourselves. Is bettering yourself hiding out from a confrontation when you know of an injustice? I don’t think so. I think it is just self-preservation. But where did we get this idea that to preserve our light we have to avoid calling someone out on what is dark? And the fact is that a person will hide the bad stuff they do. They know it’s wrong too. So I am not talking about stopping a rape, beating, injustice if you see it happening. It happens in private.
What do we do when we know there is someone we know of that did something really bad? We chose to either not hang out with them or avoid talking anywhere near their close circle about it. Ohhh that takes a bite out of them. How could they ever live with our snub or silence?
The behavior continues.
We continue to be ok with it because we do nothing to stop it happening again or help heal the victim. Why? Because we don’t know the victim that well or it isn’t our place. It’s gotten so bad that it’s become taboo for people who have been wronged to even talk about that wrong to anyone except a close, secret circle.
Most of us are doing pretty good at doing the right thing. I have that confidence in the readers here. But what can we do to prevent the bad to come or heal from that which was??
And has anyone ever noticed that it is strongly human to do something? The more we preserve self in avoidance the more that part of nature tells us to reach out against something wrong. If the only wrong we are left exposing ourselves to is who picks whose nose then we’ll be overly critical.
Society says --
We should never, ever cry in public.
We should actually control every extreme emotion in public.
No PDA, no arguing with the SO.
We never even talk about politics at parties for crying out loud.
Keep everything a secret. Only let people in when you have to.
Donating time and money regularly is good but not necessary.
Is this pagan? This is normal? It seems it is. How very sad.
After the complaints are blogged what do you do to right that wrong??

Abortion has been in the news due to the murder of Dr Tiller in Kansas by an anti-abortion activist and this has got me thinking about ... abortion and about kids. The truth is, anti-abortionists aren't thinking about what's best for kids and most abortion rights supporters actually really like kids. It's so complicated but the media wants to paint it all in black and white. You can't do that.

The decision to have (or not have) a child is quite possibly the most complicated decision of one's life. (Assuming you are sane) If you marry the wrong spouse, you can divorce. If you choose the wrong career, you can quit your job and find a new one. If you chose the wrong major in college, you can go back to college. If you buy the wrong house, assuming the economy hasn't totally tanked, you can sell it and buy another one. But if you have a child you aren't ready for, you're stuck with it. Forever. Yes, you can give it up in its first year when it's cute and looks at you adoringly and doesn't amazing things like sit up, crawl, stand and walk for the first time and you're all hopped up on oxytocin (not to be confused with oxycontin may also be helpful, but isn't recommended) and not thinking clearly anyway. But after that, when the little beast starts talking back, breaking your crap, embarrassing you in public, biting his teachers, skipping school, fighting, lying, cheating, stealing and bringing unsavory characters into your home- he's all yours. No matter what. Unless of course he breaks the law and then you get to send him to Juvey and spend sleepless nights wondering if he's okay, if he's eating right, if the other delinquents are nice to him. And of course, whatever happens, it will be your fault entirely.

Furthermore, you will sink more money into this giant mess-making, stuff "borrowing", back talking garbage disposal than anything else in your whole life- ever. He will cost more than your house, your car, your college education and all the clothes you've ever bought in your life combined. And that's not the worst of it, this ungrateful being that burst forth from your loins (Never asking to be born she will remind you later) has the power in her breast to cause you more emotional pain and trauma than any other being you will ever encounter.

This you must bear all the while keeping in mind that this monster who has taken over your entire life and puked, peed or pooped on all the best parts of it is a child with a delicate psyche and a mind like a sponge that you must not pollute with your own angst but instead allow to grow and expand, to learn about the world, to develop self-discipline, values, and dreams all its own (to be crushed by your grandchildren, of course). You must strive every day give this beautiful, perfect gift from the Goddess all of the things we wish our parents could have given us. Every decision that you make must be weighed against how it will affect the dear gift's feelings, living situation, education, health, security, and the amount of time you have to spend indoctrinating him.

So if you're going to have a kid, you better damn well be ready.

There are many reasons for having a kid. I can't think of a good one. I know I had my first child because I wanted something of my own that would love me. I should've gotten a dog. I had my second because I thought my first should have a sibling. I actually hold by that decision and think it was a good one, but if I'd gotten a dog in the first place, I could've just gotten another dog. Not long ago, when I got married I decided I wanted to have a child with my husband as a symbol of our love... or something. He got me a ring and told me to get over it. Thank Goodness!

Some other very bad reasons to have children:

• To "save" your relationship (It won't. It'll just make it worse.) or to make someone love you more (If he doesn't love you now do you think he's going to love you when you're bloated and sleepless? Hah.)
• Because your mother or father wants grandchildren (it's probably out of spite)

• The Quiverfull movement, otherwise known as Clowncar Vaginas for Jesus, is all about having as many children as you can so that you can indoctrinate them with Christianity, thus building up the ranks of Christians. This seems like child exploitation to me. (Didn't the Nazis have a similar plan? Does that creep anyone else out?)

  Of course there's the Duggar Family who have elevated this concept to a very public art and are all about showing off the efficacy of their gonads for the glory of the Lord- but at least they have them naturally.

• The latest and greatest, Nadya Suleman who, despite the fact that she was broke and on disability somehow managed to have herself repeatedly implanted with dozens of embryos on her way to fame. Her reason seems to be simply that she's nuts and she's looking for a book deal.

  Of course, it's not new or unique in our day and age when the exploitation of huge amounts of children is fashionable. Take TLC's Jon & Kate Make 8 which not only exploits children but publically embarrasses them by splattering the exploits of their idiot parents all over the tabloids.

Children are much like pets. If you have more than two or three, you start running into problems paying for their food and medical care. It helps, I suppose, to become a reality TV show so you can afford all your cute funny pets. Of course, if I had that many dogs in my house, and was planning to continue to breed indiscriminately, my neighbors would complain (with good reason), the dogs would be seized and I'd likely be the subject of the next town hall meeting.

There are so few good reasons to have children and so many good reasons to keep your family sizes small:

• If you give birth to large litters of children (which rarely happens without the help of modern science) how are you supposed to breast feed those kids? If you don't breast feed them, you know you're not giving them the best start and you're not getting those hormones the Goddess in Her wisdom provided us to prevent infanticide.
• The more kids you have, the less individual attention you can provide each one. The less you can spend on things like tutors, lessons, vacations, summer camp, school field trips, etc. for each one.
• The carbon footprint of the average American is 20 metric tons. Every child that is born represents a new footprint. Consider.

But there are no marches on Washington to end this ridiculous rash of reproduction. No. Instead people are marching to make abortion illegal. Nobody shoots fertility doctors. They shoot abortion doctors. (Not that I advocate shooting anyone, mind you) While I realize not all fertility doctors encourage people to give birth to ridiculous amounts of infants at a time but each child that a fertility doctor helps produce represents not only that 20 metric ton carbon footprint, but another child languishing in foster care somewhere. Think about it. If Jon and Kate had adopted 8 kids instead of given birth to 8, sure they might not be getting the TLC paycheck right now, but they'd be more worthy of respect.

Now nobody likes abortion and nobody likes the idea of abortion- including abortion doctors, I am sure. But abortion doctors provide necessary services to adults and children alike:

• Since so many people would rather turn to fertility treatments than adoption to get their "Hey look this creature has no choice but to love me" fix, abortion doctors provide a valuable service helping to keep our foster care system from being even more over crowded than it already is.
• Since many abusive men will use pregnancy as a means to control the women they have chosen to victimize, abortion doctors serve a valuable role in the fight against domestic violence.
• Since sexual crimes against women and children still run rampant through our culture, abortion doctors help victims of rape and incest to heal by taking away one worry, so they can focus on the rest.
• Since the occasional woman who already has enough kids and can't afford anymore or can't take time off to have another child has an accidental pregnancy, abortion doctors help keep existing families together and functioning.
• Since many low-income women are cognizant of the fact that having a child may require them to seek public assistance to continue to survive, abortion doctors help keep taxes from being raised even more.
• Since women and girls facing unwanted pregnancies will continue to seek abortions by whatever means available to them, whether they be herbal means, coathangers or so-called backalley abortions if safe abortion services are not available to them abortion doctors save lives.

Do I think everyone should go run out and have an abortion? No. Do I think abortion should be used as a means for birth control? No. Do I hate fertility doctors? No. I don't think laws restricting abortion or fertility treatments are appropriate but I can't get my brain around a society that celebrates the clown car vagina while while tearing itself apart over the abortion issue. What we need is some common sense and some responsibility.

I don't believe in abortion, I think it's a terrible thing. That's why I use condoms and I teach my children to use condoms every time- so that my family never has to deal with that decision. That's why I tell them condoms aren't enough and teach them about various methods available to them and how their bodies work all the while trying to instill that sex is sacred, that sex is divine union, that reproduction is the most fabulous power given to mankind and that it must be wielded responsibly.

I love my children and I am amazed every day that they came from me, these fabulous fascinating (and at times cruel) beings that have shaped my world for the last 16 years and will continue to do so till I die. I want them to feel that same fascination and I don't want it to be cheapened because they are overwhelmed with a litter of 6 or riddled with guilt over an abortion. But if it comes down to it, it's not my decision, it's my daughter's or that of my son's partner. It is they that must think on how a new little life that they create will affect their life- until death- and whether or not they can deal with it. Because frankly, if a woman isn't ready to be a mother, she shouldn't have a child.

Two snakes this one is for you!

Ahhhhh the life of a pagan socialite!
We pagans pride ourselves in being a diverse group. That we are! If there were paper degrees to earn based on the pagan experience there would be a few to be gotten from being a pagan socialite! From four years being active in the pagan community you could earn your bachelors in psychology, sociology, crafting, management and of course mead among many other things. Well, personally I believe a degree in mead could be very useful.
Getting used to the pagan community could cause a lot of mental turmoil. You have to become a mind reader at times to decipher what is going on. And when dealing with the likes of psychics and natural empaths, well it can be hard to figure out what’s up. THEN - Just when you think you have it down pat what is acceptable and what is not you run into another group with an entirely different demeanor and “set of rules”. Some things can leave even an “experienced” pagan confused as to what people are thinking or how to react.
It starts with the Internet. It isn’t like you can just go to the club, put on your pagan nametag and find others out there that have those unique views on religion. No, if you crave the contact of those other like-minded then it usually start with an online search. You do the Google thing and if you add Michigan to the search you’re likely to come up with either one of Robin or Gordon’s sites, throw a search of Witchvox in for good measure and your on your way to being one socially endowed pagan. Great, ya hit pay dirt you think! Here is where it starts! Yea!
It’s great how far we have come with online socializing. But there is no body language to convey what exactly is meant in the world of the typed. What about when those slippery smilies come sneaking in? Add it to pagan lingo and your screwed. What exactly is meant by “Perfect love and Perfect Trust” when it is typed? When someone is talking about his or her experiences is because they see it as a requirement that you follow their same path or is it because they are simply sharing? And ya just can’t beat the drama that inevitably some people seem to feed off of.
You met some people online and the next step follows naturally. Time to step out of the life of the solitaire and start rubbing elbows! So you meet Silverstar-Goldenfire-Moon-Wind-Earthwalker. Cool name you think. For a while you chat online getting to know Silver. She seems cool. She explains a lot of the confusing pagan lingo and what differences are between paths. After a while you ask for a picture exchange. She is actually a he. But ummm you remember him talking about past boyfriends. So he is gay, no big deal. But the whole time you’re thinking of Silver as a she. Oooops. You’re quite embarrassed but you can go on because he is really cool and it was your mistake anyhow.
You meet Silver out at a ritual at his place. It is going good except for the fact that you cannot for the life of you remember his actual name. He remembers yours and talks about the importantance of a names so you can’t very well ask can you? You wait – ok there you got it. His name is Kelly. That’s the other reason you thought he was a she. Ok, it’s going good. Ritual time! People are getting naked. Ummmm-eeeer. Oh well, it doesn’t seem as strange as you thought it would – When in Rome! The mead is poured and the ritual goes great. People feast after and there is more mead. Then another bottle is opened. Hmmmm cool. All in all it’s a great night and fun was had.
You continue to hook up with other pagans because this is fun and everyone is great! This next deal is different. Still seems cool, but different somehow. You go to your next ritual, making it a point to remember the hostesses name perfectly this time. You bring the mead cuz you find out just how cool a mead night can be. Ritual time!
You - “I’ll pour the mead, where’s the chalice?”
Not you - “We don’t drink here.”
You - “Oh, ummm sorry.”
Not you - “Oh my god, are you taking off your pants?”
You - “Umm, well, I just thought. Ummm”
But all is not lost. You have a good laugh over it and everything is discussed logically and the night is winds up worth it. All’s well that ends well.
I won’t even go on about what happens when this poor pagan walks into the house with Slayer music blaring, complete with Kiss costume answering the door.
But you win some and you loose some – 2 out of 3 aren’t bad.
Yes, a diverse group we are! Sometimes you find people that you click with right away and know there is a connection. Some people you meet online and chat, chat, chat then in person the most logical thing you can say is “have the time?” Some people make ya squirm and you can’t wait to bolt from their company. No matter what you can’t really claim there is a dull moment!

Mr. Obama - Just a few questions please.

As everyone that knows me personally, knows I am a big fan of Obama. As a matter of fact, I recently and publicly (well myspace anyhow) declared the Obamas to be the hottest public couple in America. Sorry - Angelina and Brad eat your hearts out! This is the greatest place to be an Obama fan, the pagan community. I don’t know how many announcements I heard for circles on inauguration night. I don’t have to express here why I think our new pres is so great.
Alas, that’s not the total public view. Along with the inauguration circles there was plenty of talk about protection spells going out. I lit my candle. I think I am going to make a permanent place for more candles. I grieve to say I think they’ll be needed. They’ll be needed for all the power hungry, money snorting fools out there that are watching our new pres like hawks, or rather vultures. Those candles should be burning for a very dangerous reason – fundamentalists right to lifers.
Within a day of his presidency Obama was working his tail off. He was getting to know all those he was going to rub elbows with. He was politely seeing Bush and his Gestapo out the door. He also signed a paper or two. One of the already famed paper signing experiences he had dealt with funding in relation to places that also perform abortion.
The Freedom of Choice act is the new Right to Life hot topic. If you Google Obama and abortion, the Freedom of Choice Act has plenty of reading material. This act "declares that it is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to bear a child; terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability; or terminate a pregnancy after viability when necessary to protect her life or her health." That’s according to Wiki. Sounds reasonable to me. I’m pro life – Pro that a woman has a right to do what she feels she needs to with her life.
Obama was already told that Jesus wouldn’t vote for him. He is just to free on his views of Freedom – Like the view that people should have it uncontrolled by slanted, narrow church views. I know the pres is pissing off right to life junkies. I am scared he’s going to piss off some real assholes his term. (Maybe I shoulda said jerks?)
I was still shocked when I received a very strange phone call the other day. “Hi – this is a recorded voice calling you to make sure I tell you my point of view. Before we start I want to make sure you know that everything I tell you is true. I would not have gone through the trouble of recording my voice to have some yahoos call as many people as they can if it were not true. Not only is it true but also you need to agree with me by the end of this message. Period.” Ok so I admit that’s not exactly how it started, but that’s what it translated to anyhow, roughly, sorta, kinda. What that little recorded voice DID state was a series of questions. Did I know? Did I know that Obama is right to life? (duhh, it was a winning point.) Did I know? I listened somewhat distractedly I am sorry to say. However, I am not sure why I didn’t hang up as soon as I knew it was the friendly robo-man. So at least I listened. As disgusted as I was with what I heard later I think robo-man was right about one thing – we need to listen.
We need to know what these trippy right to life people have to say. Because they are NOT saying things like – Since we are right to life we are going to open a right to life kids care and all abused and neglected children who are taken from their families will live here happily ever after. No – we have run down foster care systems and stressed adoption agencies. I think that every right to lifer that stands up and says “That woman should NOT have an abortion!” Should also be prepared to say, “If that baby is born to this world I will take the child as my own!” Every single one of them should have this sentiment. We need to know what they say because they are angry. They are angry enough to distort the truth into a huge pack of lies with one hope – to get everyone they can as pissed off about the things they are pissed about.
Did you know that Obama is working to ensure that every current restriction is erased from abortion? This means that anyone anywhere can perform an abortion regardless of medical qualifications. This means that sanitary conditions will no longer be a consideration. Anyone anywhere can perform abortions at any time and it will be legal, more than that encouraged. Is anyone getting these calls from robo-man actually believing this shit? I’m sure they are. To go so far as to state that Obama wants to ensure that a woman can abort a child anywhere, from anyone is ridiculous. To be honest any one anywhere can perform an abortion and likely not get persecuted. The statements made were to be used as an insinuation that Obama cared nothing for human life. That he encourages the mass death of innocent life. The thought is taken further in that the innocent life will be destroyed under circumstances that even the most extreme pro-abortionists must find reprehensible. It is an old, unstable stepping stool to say the least. It is taken a step further here because Obama is popular and they have to take their extreme to the next level.
Did you know?
Click. I couldn’t take it any more. I hung up before I got more of an education.
I only hope that mainstream America also chooses logic
I have a couple of questions.
Did you know it is impossible for Obama to pass anything to completely take all restrictions from abortion, even if he wanted to? Did you know it is just fine to be pro-choice and not feel you’re going to go to hell?