Pagan Values, What Are They Exactly?

A few weeks ago I got together with a few other Kitchen Witches to do what we do. Cook and eat and gossip. The gossip eventually rolled around to the unfolding festival season and we each expressed our own feelings of hesitation about it. One of my friends was in the middle of a sexual harassment issue that had her completely strung out. "I have to babysit this guy" She said exasperated. "He can't keep his hands to himself." My other friend and I shook our heads, "You shouldn't have to worry about that sort of thing at a clothing optional event." And it's true. "The worst thing" Said my girlfriend, "Is that this was one of the poor girl's first events. She's just a young thing."

As the conversation progressed we touched on dozens of other reasons why the festival season has come to be a thing of dread for we matronly folks. "I'm tired of watching people throw a year's worth of wood onto a bonfire in one night." Said I. "I'm tired of mead tastings that turn into drunken debauchery" Said my friend. "I hate mead" I confessed sheepishly.

And then our shame was complete when we all expressed the wish that we could be like the Christians and know what to expect when we go to our "religious" gatherings.

No. We don't want to be Christians. Not really. But wouldn't it be nice if, when considering whether to attend an event, you could predict the sort of values that would be expressed there? Wouldn't it be nice if you could dance skyclad without the worry that some dude would stick his hand in places he has no right to? Wouldn't it be nice if you could take your kids to an event and not worry that some drunken fool was going to push mead (or something) on them. "No it's good. I made it myself, you have to try it. It's sweet. Tastes like honey. It's alright, this is religious gathering. You can have some. You'll like it."

I used to put on an annual camp out. I reserved the space, brought the food and charged people $20 to spend the weekend. Not everyone paid, but I didn't care much about that. The reason I stopped is because so many people disregarded the rules of the venue. I was afraid that something would happen as a result and that I would end up liable for someone else's behavior. People were loud during "quiet hours" (and took their noise well out of our reserved space as well), drove their vehicles "beyond this point" (and got stuck and needed to be pushed out) and brought in the prohibited glass containers (and melted them in the fire pit; which was cool, but still). I posted the rules before the event, reminded people of them during the event, and mostly despaired that the Michigan State Parks and Recreation was going to blacklist me.

I also despaired of the example that was being set for my children. Obeying the rules of the venue aside, public sexuality, offering alcohol, drugs and cigarettes to minors, and showing general disrespect of natural places seem to be the norm at these gatherings, no matter how firmly the rules are stated or how loudly we declare that this event was meant to be family friendly.

The problem is not that we don't have a unified value system. Most Pagans that you talk to will declare that we respect the Earth and everything in it. Many will spout the "harm none" rhetoric. Likewise they'll spout it when you argue against a transgression. "If we aren't hurting anyone else, we can do what we want" some folks will declare. To that I say:

When you embarrass and humiliate others by invading their space and exposing them to unwanted sexual situations, you are harming them.

When you disobey the rules at a venue someone else is paying for, you are harming them.

When you offer drugs, alcohol and cigarettes to minors, you are harming them and their parents.

When you litter, burn unnecessary amounts of wood and other fuel and waste resources, you are harming everyone.

When you drink, smoke and use drugs to excess, you are harming yourself.

The funny thing about all this is that "harm none" has nothing to do with my personal belief system. I am, in fact, overridden with guilt that I have let wrongs go unanswered because of a weakness in my personality that causes me to resist rocking the boat. My Gods and my path demands Hospitality and Reciprocity, and it also demands Justice. I'm afraid I'm not good at that last bit at all. Of course I am at a loss as to what can be done in any of these situations besides punching the transgressor in the nose, and I have no desire to spend the festival week in jail for assault. Some of these things might warrant legal action but I hesitate to bring negative attention upon the Pagan community. But wait... Isn't that how those Catholic priests got away with molesting little boys for so long?

Why did the sky clad groper not go to jail for sexual harassment? Why was he babysat instead? Why do the mead pushers not get prosecuted for providing alcohol to a minor? Why do the rule breakers not just get kicked out? Because we don't want to rock the boat. We don't want to draw attention to ourselves. And most of all, we don't want to face the judgment of our Pagan peers who will certainly look at us with scorn and say "Who knew that a Pagan would be so puritanical and turn on his own like that." And so I am a hypocrite, choosing my comfort level over my values; keeping quiet and just avoiding issues rather than challenging them head on. Even as I say it I know that I'm not likely to change it because I cringe just thinking of it. Is it worth losing friends for the sake of ideals? That's a question many of us have to ponder deeply, I'm afraid.

5 comments

Comment from: Orius [Visitor]
I wanted to touch briefly on what you said about inappropriate behavior at festival. When I first started going to Pagan gatherings 20 years ago I was quite frankly shocked at the level of inappropriate behavior I saw. At the same time I was impressed with the level of self policing I witnessed as well. You are always going to have one or two bad apples at any kind of gathering. At festival I call these the festival creeps. The ones that see a set of boobs and think that since they are out, and this is festival it is ok to touch them. Having moved into a role as elder here in our local community when I see this type of behavior I try to educate the person from which it originates. I have found that more often times than not, when educated the offending person is remorseful for their actions and they stop. I agree with you that festival season for many is a time of dread, as they would like to go but may be afraid of running into a “festival creep” or almost as bad rampant! illegal drug use, which could jeopardize there personal or professional life outside of festival. I quite going to a fest I loved for 12 years because of these reasons and only returned this year to it because they had made some major changes. Unfortunately we as a community may have to go to a zero tolerance about many of the things you touched on in your blog post to get the message across.
06/03/09 @ 08:59
Comment from: Elysia [Visitor]
I think the nice thing about Pagans is that we encompass such a broad spectrum. Some of us may be more socially conservative (about issues like giving alcohol to minors) while others are more free about it - and that's OK, providing it's their own kids and they're not trampling other parents' boundaries. I think both types of festivals should be able to exist - the more free, anything-goes, drugs and alcohol all night type, and the "normal" family events where we really are serious about keeping people out of harm's way. But event-goers should know ahead of time which kind of event it is, and what behavior will be appropriate or tolerated.

So if you have a clear set of rules posted, you need to enforce them. That is the only way people will take them seriously in the future. So yes - clearly tell attendees ahead of time "we will PROSECUTE for these and those offenses, regardless of whether you are a Pagan and it is your True Will to do these things that offend others" - they can find a more liberal festival to attend instead. The only way you can draw the line, I think, is to have serious consequences. This means getting the cops involved when there is any unwelcomed sexual contact, any drugs and alcohol being consumed by or provided to minors, etc. Let them get what they deserve, and they'll go to a different festival next year. Meanwhile, your peers will respect you for taking a stand and will trust that your event is "safe" enough for them to attend in good faith. That's just my two cents!
06/03/09 @ 13:07
Comment from: Dana [Visitor] Email
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I'd like to thank you for writing this blog. The types of behavior you describe have kept the rest of my family from wanting anything to do with festivals (or with pagans- other than myself).

I volunteered with a large public family festival for years, and then had to leave after I was bitten by the dog of other volunteers. (The dog had no clear vaccination history, and regardless the only way to know that it had not passed on- fatal- rabies was to report the bite and to observe the dog in a home quarantine. I also was not current on a tetanus shot, and knew I had to see my doctor; I would see him and report the bite after the festival ended. I discussed this with the dog’s owner and she was ok with this.)

Not one person helped me take down my large tent pavilion (this with a bleeding and disabled right hand- I called my husband to come help), nor called me after the festival to see how I was doing. At least this unattended dog did not bite a child! I was told that at least for awhile afterwards they kept the dog in the kitchen where food was being prepared for sale. The event organizer said he was glad that the dog bit me and not someone else; as he knew I wouldn’t sue!

They all probably haven’t noticed the other long-term volunteers that left the festival at about this same time. I suppose I was being ‘puritanical’ by wanting to know their dog didn’t have rabies- but hey, protecting my health and that of others was well worth it. I’ve basically been shunned from the group since then.

There is another distant private festival I’ve been invited to present at again this year that I will not go to. They heavily advertised as ‘no illegal drugs’, and then drug use was all that happened at night- and with kids present. The organizers were the worst offenders! It was unfair to those who, like I, don’t partake (I am oath-bound) and to the parents. This behavior also hindered rituals, dinner preparation, and the rest. People liked my ritual- I suspect I was the only presenter who wasn’t stoned! (Time for me to write an email telling them why I’m not attending.)

We all have our stories of irresponsible behavior at festivals and gatherings. It seems to be hurting our communities. I suspect it’s also led to the demise of festivals or groups. I do know of one instance where an older ‘festival creep’ was called on the carpet by those attending an event, and he has subsequently completely changed his behavior! Haven’t our groups matured enough that we can all take some responsibility?
06/04/09 @ 12:06
Comment from: CelticCrystal [Visitor] Email · http://cocyeabroomstick.blogspot.com
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WOW. This is an eye opener. My island has not reached the stage of holding Pagan Festivals as yet. Actually the Pagan movement is still in the Broom Closet.
There is only one festival which is an Earth Festival which we organise and attend.
However one thing should be clear. A festival to honour and respect the Earth, should begin with an individual respecting themselves. All things natural......alchohol and drugs especially are seen as a disrespect to our personal earth spaces, our bodies. We use the festival to connect with Spirits of the Earth, and would not like to greet them in a drunken stuppor..........

I suppose our view has become this, because we are an island with a weekly drinking binge, and an annual drinking binge island-wide. We have seen what festivals can become with excessive amount of alcohol (just google Trinidad carnival) We have seen the surges in crime, and disrespect of people's space etc from that. We wanted a festival honouring the gifts of the Goddess Earth / Gaia ; something the exact opposite of what takes place in Feb-March every year.
Thank you for posting this.
06/05/09 @ 08:59
Comment from: Sarenth [Visitor]
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Mercifully, I have not experienced the groping and the overt crudeness of what you have. The Pagan festivals and gatherings I have gone to have a zero-tolerance policy for unwanted sexual advances and drug use, and the use of alcohol was, while not banned, discouraged. At the clothing-optional spiritual gathering, I felt safe; I felt safe also at the campout spiritual gathering and conventions because such things were simply not tolerated.

We do have people who are being responsible; I a lot, but I understand not all festivals are like this. My hope is that as the trends for more festivals rise, more people will partake of them in ways that enhance, not destroy, the image of Paganism.
11/13/09 @ 02:48

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